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we're fighting different wars with a much more different enemies who are diffuse around the battlefield. and we need to do a lot more with working with countries, address needs on the ground. these are pivotal programs that you saw retired members of the military say would be devastating to the war donald trump says he wants to win. >> ronald reagan never cut the state department funding as i recall. >> when military folks make the argument for the state department as opposed to the diplomats making it for themselves, that carries more weight i think with the president. but number two, the budget director's job is frankly terrible. and no matter what administration you're in, but particularly if you're in a republican administration, where you're talking about bloated government and waste, fraud and abuse, et cetera, there is enormous pressure on this push to be mack the knife and cut out and go as fast and deep as he can. and there will always be

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