there if uae was on there? you would be as critical. >> of course not. this is a counter productive ban. it's ineffective. there's a reason why experts have said this would be useless. this will be a thoroughly ineffective counter productive ban which will not help our national security. he says go after cyber threats. go after individuals who get radicalized and you know something about this because he said this will be counter productive and ineffective. >> let's get ben back in. >> one simple thing here. this is a huge reason why donald trump is the president of the united states and hillary clinton is not. because americans understood that there's an actual threat from terrorism and as he just implied there that oh, all these terrorists came, you know, weren't from asaudi arabia, wha countries did they train? >> are you fine with europe. >> >> let him finish. let him finish.