looked very different because most very practical, pragmatic. roosevelt was deeply idealistic about how he wanted the post world war to look. >> the president was an anti- anti-colonialist. the two great leaders were arguing about the future. churchill is the prime minister of this vast, british, ancient empire and the president looking ahead to how these countries would achieve self-determination after the war. >> you talk about when he was at casablanca and he starts telling about the world he imagines. he's describing morocco was a french colony. tell that story.