anonymous sources, the president of the united states, according to reporting, as a citizen used to make up a fake name and call up reporters to drop items about himself using a fake name. >> and sometimes his own name as a background source. >> what is he talking about? >> i think probably and this kind of sounds like a little bit of a copout, but what he did as a private citizen versus what he did as president of the united states, maybe there should be a higher coverage standard, and if you're accusing the president of the united states of coordinating with russia, that's a very, very serious charge, and to cite anonymous people. that would be what the question is. >> it was anonymous sourcing, which led to the stories about mike flynn which led the white house to let go of flynn. >> absolutely, and there are anonymous sources at the white house, people like me and maggie talk to every day and this is a president who always tweeted people are saying, i don't know