maeve, let me bring you in, in listening, sara explained it perfectly, again no love loss between these two, the fact is he cares very much about the great people of ohio and about their health care but just the notion to sara's point he's rooting for the pilot, rooting for the president in this case. >> right. so that was a good message for kasich coming out of this meeting, earlier this week in the ohio papers there was this back and forth of who really asked for the meeting, kasich or trump? and but john kasich thinking about another future potential run for presidency, obviously in his state he allowed medicaid expansion under obamacare and that became a huge controversial issue with him among republicans when he ran for president but he's now trying to get trump to take a look at his plans on