schlapp who will be moderating this discussion between steve bannon and reince priebus if they'll get into those controversial issues like the proposed travel ban. >> we're seeing this administration some some ways act like a typical administration. no shortage of ways they're unique and unprecedented but in terms of trying to figure out an executive order that will meet a court's scrutiny is not unusual. even the pull and tug over who is going to hold some of these secretary tier, third tier cabinet positions. that's something you often see with administrations with the battle between the white house and people with the president when he was a candidate and the people who are close to the secretary of the agency. we saw that with hillary clinton when she became secretary of state for barack obama. so this is standard operating procedure, although it's taken the trump administration a little while to get to this point. >> it is understandable that the white house, the president, doesn't want under secretaries or deputy secretaries of the various cabinet departments and