guests. you wrote in the "guardian." melania trump has rewritten the script for first ladies. what do you mean by that? >> well, i'm not sure she would define herself as a feminist, but in many ways what she is doing is a feminine twist on being first lady. michelle obama didn't want to move from chicago initially, and her husband's advisers said you have no choice. melania trump is clearly saying that she doesn't want to fit into what our idea of what a first lady should be. and maybe there is, you know, something to gain from that. maybe the role is kind of antiquated, and she's forcing us to reconsider it. >> doug, i don't know if people have actually criticizing her for that. i think it's kind of cool that she wants to live the life she wants to live and take care of her son and doesn't want to upset his schooling and stays in