somebody like michael flynn would have just done on his own and not mention it to anyone, not run it by anyone in the administration? it's a pretty important sort of conversation to have, you would imagine. >> yeah, that is a really important distinction we don't know the answer to. i don't know if this was sanctioned by the president or somebody else in the white house but for michael flynn to have that conversation you would think he was acting in what he thought was his job, or he was directed to go out and make contacts with the russians. remember, this action on the part of the previous administration, the obama administration, expelling the russian diplomats, which many of us thought was an overreaction to what happened, and trump was automatically faced with the dilemma with the russians he may have sent mr. flynn to talk to the russians and say calm this down until we get in office and we can figure out how to fix