and they have accepted my apology. that's where the rubber met the road, giving vice president pence information that was not accurate. >> yeah, don, i think that's the straw that broke the camel's back, if folks will pardon the late-night cliches. essentially what happened here, the incoming national security adviser before this administration came into office, the incoming national security adviser gave bad information to the vice president elect, who went on national television and vouched for the national security adviser about this phone call between michael flynn and the russian ambassador about whether or not, you know, they had talked about sanctions, sanctions against russia. that is just not something that's going to fly with any administration, and it is rather surprising that it took this long for all of this to play out. don, one has to assume that part of this is because, at the onset of any administration, you just can't have the president