guidance of professionals. we don't want to see the kind of amateur foreign policy that we have already had examples of. >> tom, what about as i'm looking at the prime minister and his wife and the president and his wife going down to mar-a-lago, we know golf is on the table for two men, talking diplomacy, known for playing golf with world leaders, you could call it golf course diplomacy. how effective do you think that is in general? >> well, it's always important for leaders to form a personal connection and a connection of trust between themselves and other world leaders. and i hope that the president is successful in doing that. but golf still remains secondary in the process of building trust to saying what you're going to do and then being consistent in following through on that.