a no-man's land right now. he needs to try to get confirmed. he has been nominated by the president. so, he needs to come out, as jeffrey says, he needs to come out and spexpress his views. what we've seen is trump is putting people he has in positions of power in very uncou uncome for theable positions. we saw kellyanne conway saw it yesterday on air. we have very likely the next supreme court justice having to do the same thing. >> yeah, but i can only imagine how the president, president trump is reacting to judge gorsuch's words when he hears his nominee for the u.s. supreme court brand what the president has said about these judges demoralizing and disheartening. i can only imagine how trump is reacting. >> well, in some ways maybe he should be used to this by now because as we saw a lot of the nominees go before congress, and they, too, had to distance