comes out. i do worry that the courts are being asked to play a bigger role than they are constitutionally intended to play here. i'm sure there will be lawsuits for a while. >> i'm sure it will eventually wind up at the u.s. supreme court as well. ? the justice's department effort to overturn the travel ban, they say the president should have -- and i'm quoting now -- unreviewable authority to suspend the omission of any class of alien. do you believe the president should have unreviewable authority? >> well, i don't know what legal or constitutional authority they cite for that. if we all just step back for a second and suspended disbelief, i think most of us would agree that any country's government should be able to control who and what comes across it's border, and then exactly the discretion to the executive versus the legislative is we would have torg through.