tell us about the cleanup effort on the call including white house meeting with the australian al bas ambassador. >> the ambassador met with chief of staff reince priebus and the chief strategist steve bannon that conveyed administration for the president. this did not include rex tillerstillers nr tillersn -- tillerson or michael flynn. >> thanks very much. it's become the question to ask after so many reports lately is this the norm or are we in uncharted territory when it comes to presidential behavior, phone calls and why are we hearing normally closely guarded inside details coming out of it seems the white house. joining me is carl bernstein.