>> well, we heard from a lot of refugees and people who had visas and people who had green cards, and i'm sure you've seen the reports that people who were negatively affected by the executive order on friday. i'm sure that there are some -- we talked to one yesterday, an iraqi who is now in this country who said exactly what you said. but there are also a lot of people who say, you know, i've gone through two years of vetting and all of a sudden i can't come. or, i'm a refugee, what am i going to do? some people who sold all their belongings. certainly there is another side to this. >> look, i am an immigrant, jake. i chose this nation. i'm a proud american. my parents were refugees. >> from hungary. >> yes. who escaped a dictatorship. what happened to them? my parents were vetted for weeks in a refugee camp. not for 60 seconds by some ins agent or a member of the state department online. for weeks, to determine that they truly were persecuted and escaping that dictatorship and didn't pose a threat to the uk.