own attorney general was in place, not only what we are seeing now unfold but also with people arriving and nobody knowing what to do once people have actually landed and they had visas. >> someone had to think this through. from my standpoint, a legal standpoint, you're fnot going t do something as dramatic as this that you have not run by the senior level unless you are intentionally bypassing them. >> are you saying he might have expected or wanted this level of disruption? >> from a political standpoint, yes. legally no one could have ass e assumed that sally yates or anyone would have decided to defend this order given their reservations about this. >> thank you. always a pleasure to talk with you. the protests have gone