iraq, zero. iran, zero. syria, zero. yemen, zero. libya, zero. somalia, zero. sudan, zero. so the question is, why are we banning people, america, from those countries when there's been zero attacks for u.s. citizens since 1975? >> i've heard a rebuttal which is to say 15 out of the 19 hi jackers of 9/11 came from saudi arabia and the gulf states. we should ban those countries. no, you don't combat bigotry by saying let's focus on the really bad muslims. there are good people who come from that country as well. the idea of a blanket prescription of people with a nation state. it's distinct from the extremist groups within and distinct from the government which give rise to the extremist groups.