order, especially as his presidency is so nay sant? >> we had plenty of demonstrations in this country over time and the demonstrations against the war in vietnam and demonstrations against nixon in the '60s and '70s were huge and had a huge impact on the conduct of that war. i must tell you this is the biggest pushback we have seen in modern times. we have never seen anything like this at the beginning of a presidency. we have never had a sense of embarrassment. this is big. it's sending a message that citizens have a different view and welcome immigrants and refugees. the statue of liberty has not become passe. >> david druker, the policy director for the white house said this is just his it ter ya that the media is capturing and