been working on and it caused a sensation. >> we had absolutely no idea what people were going to do with these things when we started out. matter of fact, the two people it was designed for was woz and myself, because we couldn't afford to buy a computer kit on the market. immediately, everyone wanted one. >> woz was the technical genius and jobs was the marketing genius. >> you needed both of those kinds of mindsets to actually make this new technology work and create this company out of thin air called apple. >> since the apple computer company was founded five years ago, its sales have skyrocketed from about $100,000 to more than $100 million with the most popular typewriter sized computer on the market today. steven jobs is now 26 years old and he sees his computer's future as the future of mankind. >> how many calculators do you own? >> two, maybe. >> right. you use the automatic bank telling machines? >> sure. >> so life is already seducing you into learning this stuff. it's not going to happen at once and it's certainly not a 1984-ish vision at all.