subjective, has a rather odd relationship to the truth. and then speech or writing wru get to back check, where you get to make it into something crafted. >> that's the focus of your piece. how to listen to donald trump for years. issue is talking versus speaking, more crucial distinction. someone as linguistically unpolished -- you broke down the difference. not used to someone holding highest office in the land not being as dwhash is the word? >> articulate, controlled, monitored. he wouldn't know. truth is, it's an american story. we're not a formal people. we've got to let it all hang out. all about being real. over the past 40 or 50 years