to ever be friends. i think as others have noted, our value systems are starkly different. that we do not hold the same values. >> all right, and so, we know rex tillerson and a lot of his business dealings with russia, but at the same time, he says during confirmation hearings tr, russia doesn't want to continue to be an adversary and he says russia and the u.s. not necessarily considered friends, do and then you hear from donald trump. whether it be in "the wall street journal" today, who says you've got to have a good relationship with russia and leverage that, so, these mixeded messages, these contrasting views, of a nominee versus the president-elect soon to be president. is healthy? >> never quite seen anything like this. the degree of daylight that exists between the president-elect and at least three or four of the nominees. look, fred, you could read this one of two ways, this is unorganized chaos. the right and left hand are not coordinated or alternatively,