all of my cabinet nominees are looking good and doing a great job. i want them to be themselves and express their own thoughts. and transition officials have been trying to downplay the spotlight being on these sorts splits, saying that at the end of the day, the president-elect here is going to be the one that's going to make the policy. and they believe, and this according to sean spicer, that they are going to pursue the trump agenda in the end. but this certainly sets up already going into the incoming administration a very tricky dynamic, carol. >> oh, yes. sunlen serfaty, thanks so much. let's talk about this more, lynn sweet, washington bureau chief of "the washington sun times," and jackie kucinich, washington bureau chief for the daily beast. welcome to both of you. >> hi. >> lynn, what do you make of this? donald trump saying things like, yeah, waterboarding! and all of his nominees saying, oh, no. americans don't believe in that, it's illegal. >> what i make of this is, don't