early 2016, so the question they had inside the transition is if it began in late 2015, early 2016, how is there this motive to help donald trump get elected president? now, there is an acknowledgment inside the transition after this meeting because they say they did receive new information at this meeting they did not have before that there was an intent through this hacking activity to harm and damage hillary clinton's candidacy. they are not disputing that according to the senior transition official, but they still dispute this notion that vladimir putin, the kremlin, and the russians were involved in hacking to get donald trump elected. they say if you look at the evidence there was no hacking of election tallies and so forth but there is an acknowledgment inside this transition team that there was an intent to harm hillary clinton's candidacy. >> jim acosta outside trump tower in new york city, thank you. let's get more on all of this. former republican congressman jack kingston, senior adviser to the trump campaign, joining us. thanks very much. >> thank you.