>> even people who weren't supporting hillary clinton, would understandably be concerned about any foreign entity hacking into anybody's e-mails here, whether it was the sony hacks, which were believed to have been done by north korea, it's not necessarily all political. >> what you just described we share your view. in other words, of course, we are concerned about a foreign government hacking into our information. you and i are agreeing on a principle but not an actual set of facts. i would tell you, another set of facts that we all know that didn't seem to get much more than a shrug and a slap on the wrist from president obama at the time, and that was the 2015 hack of one million former and current government employees at the office of personnel management. we know that information was hacked. there was no public punishment. of the magnitude that we experienced as a nation last week with these russian operatives and people are left