smart and -- just a really great, great guy. >> a guy to bring to a family argument and go, van -- van, take over. >> nobody -- if only marshall -- talking and i happen to have him. >> how many times did you have dinner with -- that's so typical. first of all. the elephant picture for a second. >> okay. yes. >> did you even learn the name of the elephant? >> they're not anthropomophizing. >> is that a word for making them human like? >> maybe. >> can someone call yale? >> they did not give it -- >> did your poor mother have to pay for yale and now you don't -- >> yes. yeah. i majored in like -- >> how much money do you owe your money? all she put into her dream, how much do you feel bad about? quite a bit? >> quite a bit. >> i know.