similarly john podesta clicking on a link he should haven't clicked on. and other things which is different. >> although the dnc thing was a hack. podesta was a fish. >> but people want to know the extent and how serious of a problem it is. to know how much we should be sanctioning russia in response and we don't have good information right now. >> i think we should -- i think congress's job is to get to the bottom of this why russia did it if they did it but i don't know if we know that podesta's e-mails, like we read them in d.c., like they're being read by voters in wisconsin and michigan and that was the reason. i think that is the central focus now of why this election came to be and i think the trump campaign is a little frustrated by that. but when you have john mccain and lindsey graham and a lot of republican senators saying we need to investigate it, we should because they're afraid next time it could be republicans. >> next time it will. molly, david, thank you so much. really appreciate it. coming up, two icons gone in two days, debbie reynolds dies one day after her daughter carrie fisher. we'll talk about that and what