off some of the losses. so this is not the charitable foundation that i think people would like to believe. there really have been some questions about what's been going on with the money and i think the most troubling factor is the largest donors have $5 million, are the same -- the same person that donald trump has nominated to be the secretary or the -- for the cabinet of small business administration. so there is a concern that this is exactly the pay-for-play that trump has been denouncing elsewhere on the road. >> parris, i heard what nayyera said, heard it from other democrats, they say this is a step in the right direction but this is more of a smoke screen, if you will, there are bigger problems at play and not even getting to the other big problem right now which is the new york attorney general office says he can't do anything with his charitable foundation because he's still under investigation. so now what? >> i think this whole conversation, what nayyera was just saying, it's silly.