upset by the fact that they weren't consulted directly before the invitation from the -- the -- and chris help me out here, owns it -- >> dolans -- >> james dolan just said that they would perform. so you know, there's still all of this back and forth and push/pull here. >> everybody walking on eggshells. everybody tiptoeing about what to do. >> yeah. >> you know unlike bush, unlike obama we see trump's approval or disapproval ratings. we're a much more divided country than we were eight or 16 years ago when those inaugurations were happening. it's understandable. these are essentially business calculations that all these groups are making. >> so you're saying that these musicians, brian, and celebrities are making a business calculation to be against the president of the united states? how is that going to work? >> about alienating the fans they have versus the fans they might not have. making their friends, mostly liberals in hollywood happy. some of that i think is very real. among not all but some of these artists. >> surprised not hearing about ted nugent.