kellyanne conway, who was tapped as the counselor to the president, she was initially offered this position very early on after the election, she turned it down, she wanted a bigger more high-profile role closer to the president of the united states and she got that in being named counselor to the president. now being press secretary is not small potatoes as you know. >> it's a huge job. >> just ask ari fleischer, jay carney, josh earnest, robert gibbs. these are very big well-established people in washington and it's a huge, huge job. you're tangling with the press everyday and sean spicer has shown it on your show and other shows on cnn that he can handle it. he is somebody that donald trump has grown to really like. he tangled with michael smerconish on cnn and we were told that following that performance he got on a pat on the back from the president-elect himself. there were other people named