milita militant, was giving her husband a fist jab, probably the movie innocuous thing one could have done at that time but labeled a fist jab, a microcosm of the criticism directed at her, dispassionate observers look at it and agree, giving someone a fist jab does not make you a terrorist and that's an unfair criticism of her. she had to endure. there are many other examples of that. >> michelle obama speaking out with oprah winfrey. abby phillips, thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you. all right. we do have breaking news out of turkey right now. the russian ambassador to turkey is believed to be seriously wounded. he was shot several times, we