people who are like programming and sharing information. just like you love sharing recipes to other friends for the love of cooking and etc. >> anthony: morally, is there anything wrong -- you are breaking into information base. i am not going to do anything, i am going to go and look around and leave without disturbing anything. >> would most hackers say that's okay? >> yes. >> it is okay for our communities. i got lucky, i got into a big hacker community here and met a lot of great mentors. >> anthony: started in this business at 21. >> exactly. >> i didn't go to college. >> anthony: why not? >> most proffers, the development speed of the communities. >> anthony: why? >> your country is so advance in