>> i think the difference here, from sources i know close to ivanka, to what ivanka has said herself she is eager to learn these kinds of things and she has a greater attention span, and she is 35 years old, half of donald trump's age and she has more longevity in washington than donald does. >> the kids are very involved. you had kara swisher on your show with the best quote i saw all day. the person said, i guess this big country, i guess the united states is a family business now. you know, this person was exaggerating. but when we see the photos of these sons and ivanka in the meetings it has the feel of a family business, and trump certainly is a family ceo. he is running a family corporation. people shouldn't necessarily be surprised. we are halfway between election day and inauguration day and seeing the children very much involved. >> emily, i have been wanting to ask about this. have you written about this coffee thing? >> i did. >> something the "new york times" wrote about it today as well. apparently to the highest