does he have a point? >> i mean, he as a point in a sense that -- that yes, the -- and someone who worked for her for 20-some odd years. i didn't believe that. but there was this narrative out there. and the fact is that those hacks did impact that narrative in a way that i think impacted the ultimate election results. that's problematic and a lot of people said well, you know, president obama, himself, sort of dismissed the russian incursion into the united states, whether it's through the cyber attacks or otherwise in 2012 when he was debatining mit romney. that may have been true, but today, we see that they have been directly involved and, i mean, we need to take action. >> matt, does the president have a point that now all of a sudden, you know, republicans are embracing russia? >> yeah, yeah, he does, absolutely. i saw this starting about three, four years ago.