confidence here because even though donald trump says he's stepping away from his businesses and letting his sons run the businesses, he understands what all of their investments and entanglements are. we don't because he hasn't released his tax returns, by the way, so we don't know where his loans are out and so on. and so this creates a real concern. you said earlier -- earlier that, you know, you asked whether this is the new camelot. i think the fear is that this will be grab a lot and that the # businesses will be a central part of the decision-making in the government so this is unchartered territory. >> yeah. and at the same time, david, that we learned that donald jr. helped vet the -- interview candidates for the interior secretary position and the nominee, congressman ryan zinke of montana, represents a conservationist hunting club, it's called the boone and crockett club of which don jr. is a member. we also learned eric trump was