donald trump just told "time" this past week, i don't believe they interfered. that became a laughing point, not a talking point. anyone who's seen the intelligence says there's beyond question they interfered. they want to get into the hows and whys and how deep, but donald trump won't believe it. >> this is congress, both sides, standing up to the president-elect. >> what's that tell you? >> it's going to be an interesting january and february, you know? i think mccain, especially, you know, the 2008 republican nominee, who, you know, has -- both of these guys, by the way, mccain and graham have had testy relationships with donald trump and donald trump revealing lindsey graham's cell phone number a year ago, so the idea of those two guys now flexing their muscle and, you know, trump is not in a campaign dynamic anymore. this is a dynamic testing the powers of washington. >> i think this is going to be a pick your battles presidency. you're going to have to be really careful about where you contest trump and there's going