sound ♪ ♪ that saved a wretch like me >> and bakari, sadly, that is how you and i met, that was june 2015 only a year and a half, you know, left in his presidency. do you think this was a turning point for him on the way he handled race? >> i think it was an exceptional moment. i think that people forget sometimes that we are just 48 years away from the assassination of martin luther king jr., 48 years away from the assassination of robert f. kennedy and 48 years away from the massacre and you have things like this that happen.