the conversations will help drive a live town hall tonight on cnn called the messy truth. van jones joins me now with a preview. van, you are a strong supporter in barack obama. a life long democrat who voted for president obama and voted for donald trump. >> he said it was an issue of trust. he said, in a way that was so heart-breaking that even the camera guys welled up. he said she hurt us because she did not speak to the pain they were feeling with their factories closing, losing their jobs and donald trump did. he said that was it. i tell you, you think about trump supporters, lock her up, lock her up, the anger. you don't hear the pain. you don't hear the other deeper emotions of feeling left out and forgotten. we got down to that. the truth is messy. there is some nasty elements in that trump movement. we've talked about that a lot. but there are some beautiful