twitter donald trump said that on december 15th, he's going to make a big announcement to show that they're -- he's going to step away from the business. the problem is he also used an interesting phrase. he said "even though it's not mandated." and i think that's what you're going to see here. there are no rules. if it's not the law, they're going to be the new rules of donald trump and the kids are going to be there and he's going to be there. i think we're talking about a whole new set -- >> maggie, you got "the new york times" reporting that when nancy pelosi called right after the election, donald trump handed the phone to his daughter. she was in the room with the prime minister of japan. sheryl sandberg from facebook, ardent hillary clinton supporter called ivanka trump. al gore meeting with ivanka trump. she's central. >> she's central. you have to unpack those