the-called fake news, disinformation out there. stories -- there was a crazy story towards the end of the campaign in which the nypd was supposedly about to throw hillary clinton and her whole gang in jail because of stuff found on anthony weiner's computer that led to sex trafficking that interestingly enough, general flen retweeted at one point. how much of a problem was this post-factual election in your view? >> i think it was a huge problem. look jake, i think there's a lot of things we need to examine. congress has got to investigate what happened with russia here. we cannot have foreign and foreign aggressors i would argue intervening in our elections. and we know the elections were prom investigating fake news through other outlets, but look, we also had -- and this is with all do respect to kellyanne and her colleagues, this isn't personal, but, you know, steve bannon ran breitbart news, which was notorious for pedaling stories like this. i'm not attacking him