strategies. this is a one-on-one nation communique that is just not good for that part of the world. >> admiral williams, same question. do you worry about the contested south china sea, for example? >> i do, there's $5 trillion of trade that flow through the straits in the south china sea area. i guess some time ago, president obama has been a little bit -- i guess more acquiescing to china's demands. it happened in the -- it's happened in a couple of different areas. and i think that donald trump in a sense is kind of standing up to china and saying, it's not going to be business as usual. so it is change. >> i hope it's not business as usual. vis-a-vis china. we have to make a strategic decision, a policy decision. policy drives strategy. is whether we're going to compete, or whether we're going to cooperate with china. and we haven't fundamentally