time. he's intraspective, focused -- the way i described jim mattis, the guy to take you to the objective, desired end state and walk back from that and everybody's going to figure how to lyn rhe lyn r linearly get there. >> and you don't often hear a description of blunt or -- jim sciutto, of course. but -- so straight-talking. >> yeah. >> but very thoughtful and not going to mince words. right? >> the thing about generals today, spdr marks in that category. you go out in the field or in the pentagon, today's generals are the most educated people i know. i'll tell you. more masters degrees than anybody i know. i mean, when you go through the military, and i love the folks -- they're not armchair generals. right? two ongoing wars and all have served in combat. they have a combination of