this time but today, from reading the reports and talking to friends who were there, it really seems to me that this is different, that this was so heartfelt and that the charges that are being thrown back and forth are so difficult that i -- you know, it's going to take longer than harvard gave it to kind of settle down after this election. it's not like it was in 2012 where people could sit around a table and just sort of discuss their strategy. that wasn't this session. >> i bet it was interesting being there, though. thank you very much. i appreciate all of you when we come back, listening to donald trump america. the wall street trader who quit his job and traveled $100,000 to trump country. meet him, next.