been talking to some of these world leaders about -- about his businesses. about, you know, shifting things that would -- that would help him. that is really problematic. and that is something that he -- >> and the -- >> and the campaign need to clear up as soon as possible. >> michael specifically what jackie is talking about is president-elect trump said presidents don't have conflicts of interest. it doesn't apply to presidents of the united states. >> yeah, that, that was a striking statement, and there were some attempts in the room to clarify, or to ask president-elect to actually elaborate on what exactly he meant. it didn't go that far. so i think we just have to take the word verbatim. similarly, about the first amendment, you know, are you committed to the first amendment? we asked the president-elect. he said i think you'll be happy. i think you'll be happy you know, he leaves himself a little bit of wiggle room. he likes to be evasive on these stances. i think the jury is still out. >> it is. to the drama, michael. thanks to all of you.