cnn's jason carroll is outside trump tower. who have you seen? >> reporter: let's talk about what kellyanne conway talked about the short list of kaep candidates who trump will be seeing. former massachusetts senator scott brown being considered for secretary of veterans affairs. donald trump spoke at length throughout the campaign about the need to improve conditions for veterans, veterans administration, better medical treatment. these are issues very important to brown as well. as he left the meeting, pam remarks he gave some insight as to how that meeting went between the two men. >> we obviously spoke about my passion and his passion, which are veterans' issues. you know, obviously, it's, i think, the toughest job in the cabinet, is to lead the va because it has -- while it has so many angels working there, it has so many great problems as