you have to lose by voting from him? that message got through to some black voters. here to discuss now, wesley louery, author of "they can't kill us all." ferguson, baltimore and a new herea in america's racial justice movement. did we meet in ferguson? >> once or twice. >> yeah. >> of course, you may not realize this, but we see each other a lot on stories. >> 13%, so got through to some black voters. do you believe he got through to some black voters, black men i should say? >> yes, black men, because black women completely rejekcted donad trump as a candidate. when you look at mitt romney, a certain number of black men have been willing to vote republican, we've all got one uncle or aunt. i think what is interesting here, i'm not sure what do you have to lose connected with them. but i think perhaps some of the arguments about personal