>> hang on, both of you stop stop stop stop stop. hold on, maria. >> it's dishonest. >> i hear this argument about what he said. here's the thing, the perception is reality. >> softer -- >> latinos believe -- >> that's a fair argument. >> will you please let me talk. latinos believe he called them rapists. whether that was his intent or not. that's what they believe. >> don, you can categorize every latino. >> hang on a second. and then the thing is, that he followed it up by talking about a deportation force, operation wetback, which he actually described. he goes on to say he's against the 14th amendment, birth right citizenship. he goes on to insult a mexican american judge by calling him mexican in an insulting way saying that because of his heritage, he couldn't do his job. those are all cat goric insults