>> i want to say, though, we can sit up here and talk about all of this all day long. but don't discredit women and think that all they care about is what somebody said on a bus 12 years ago or however long ago. at the end of the day, women decide on issues that matter to them. how it affects their children and their families, their pocketbooks, the kitchen table issues. i mean, that's what they're focused on. they want to know their family is safe and secure. hilary, while you are saying they care about this, they want to know, should their son or daughter go into harm's way, that hillary clinton is going to accept that 3:00 a.m. phone call and not put their children's lives in danger. >> that's right. >> she didn't do that. >> well, i don't agree with that. history has shown that that's not true. but i agree that fundamentally, most women want what most men want, which is a safe and secure