seen some great work trying to get where trump voters come from and the wing of the gop they represent. this was the year that whites became an interest group and not the overwhelming group by default, and it is the details of polls that told us about it. what does that mean? >> well, if you look at white voters, i had a piece in the "new york times" week before last, and you can start seeing divisions even among white voters. so it turns -- it is something like white nationalists which have always been to some extent associated with the republican party, have now come to the information. they are a pretty important part of trump's voice. so you can see people like evangelicals, white nationalists, whites who didn't go to college. those are groups that are swinging towards trump. whites who did go to college are swinging away. you can actually see these groups that are -- you know, it is the way we would talk about hispanic voters or black voters, and it is interesting to see the subgroups become identity groups. it is part of the polarization of the last 20 years that you can guess how people are going to vote to a large extent by