people involved in the investigation, like john podesta's lawyer being involved in the investigation at a very, very high level. the lawyer who john podesta wrote in one of his e-mails kept him out of jail. i did not get that from the fbi, by the way, i got that from the newspapers. >> i just want to clarify the point about speaking to former fbi agents as opposed to current fbi agents. we did some checking, you were on the lars larson radio show and you said you are getting that kind of information from active fbi agents. so you used that term. i just want to make sure we're getting that right. we listened to the audio and you were talking about current fbi agents, at least in that radio interview with lars larson. >> well, the information i've been getting is from former fbi agents. >> so you misspoke to lars larson? >> if i did -- if i did say that, that was wrong. i have not -- i have not spoken