and i should point out much of this took place while hillary clinton was secretary of state in which many of these companies, for instance, ubs had interest before the government. ubs was being investigated by the justice department. it required over -- helping its customers evade taxes in the united states. it required an agreement between the state department and the swiss government in order for the justice department to get some of those records. you know, when they talk now about -- allen talked about the future, this was -- you know, these were issues while she was secretary of state. >> okay. i want to get douglas in. douglas, how much damage do these hacked memos do to the clintons? they seem to reinforce many of the concerns voters have about them. >> it does some damage but it seems like a document dump, an illegal one, meaning wikileaks,