sense that these women told somebody at the time. or in the case of that access hollywood tape there is actually donald trump on tape. or donald trump on tape talking to howard stern bragging about going into see -- >> those are words. those words, those words are not against the assault. sexual assault is different. let me clarify what i said, governor. in the case of jessica leads, accuser number one, she went to the "new york times" and said about 40 years ago i was seated on a plane and donald trump groebed me. the "new york times" 48 hours later published that on the front page. they couldn't confirm the date that it happened if it ever happened, or even the year, the flight, the departure city. they had no witnesses. they had not one fact before they ran that on the front page of the "new york times." >> that's -- >> let me go on. i wrote a piece for the new york post where i reviewed each of these 11 accusations. and they came up very thin. >> that's in your estimation.